The Elizabeth sailed at 8.pm. From 1857 onwards, the records are arranged in BT 98 by ships Official Number (ON). On 26th October 1958 the first American commercial jet took off for Paris and a whole new era was born. More than a year after the two 'Queens' had last met in New York, they sailed in company for the very first time in April 1941. Bisset was under strict instructions from Sir Percy Bates, who was also aboard the trials, that all that was required from the ship was two measured runs of no more than 30 knots and that she was not permitted to attempt to attain a higher speed record than Queen Mary. He described it as 'a British understatement with a vengeance, as though the British world of ships and shiplovers looked the other way until she had gone. There are usually several boxes of records for each port of registry, each box containing an alphabetical range of ships names. Because of the world depression, construction work had not gone very far before it was suspended.. Alternatively, browseBT 98/140-563to view all the ports covered for this period and the alphabetical ranges of ships for each port. Cunard's appropriated pilot, Captain Bowyer, was not available as he was 'fogbound' on another vessel. A skilled craftsman working on the QUEEN ELIZABETH earned just 3.2s.0d for a 47-hour work. In that year there would be only two days on which a high enough tide would be available to move the QUEEN ELIZABETH. [9] For this new tropical purpose, the ship received a major refit in 1965, with a new Lido deck added to her aft section, enhanced air conditioning, and an outdoor swimming pool. There was no one on deck, but when the yacht was hailed an old lady appeared from below. Mr C.Y. This awe-inspiring warship is capable of carrying up to 40 aircraft. her summer overhaul in the King George V dry dock. From 22nd October 1945 it was the QUEEN ELIZABETH's job to repatriate thousands of Canadian soldiers. The QUEEN ELIZABETH in the Firth of Clyde (Inchgreen), The QUEEN ELIZABETH passing the Cloch Lighthouse. [13] Cunard's plan was for the ship to be launched in September 1938, with fitting-out intended to be complete for the ship to enter service in the spring of 1940. For the purpose of this list, they have been included as Cunard ships. I have recently uploaded three videos on to 'YouTube' about, Cunard Line QUEEN ELIZABETH of 1938, Part 1 [30 minutes], Cunard Line QUEEN ELIZABETH of 1938, Part 2 [30 minutes], Arrivals & DeparturesQueen Elizabeth Southampton 1950 [20 minutes], To view these, log on to 'You Tube', and enter into the search box. Information on the holdings of The National Archives are decribed in The National Archives' Merchant Seamen: Agreements and Crew Lists after 1861. The QUEEN MARY's post-war refit was completed in the summer of 1947 and on 1st August she joined her larger sister in the long-delayed two-ship Atlantic express ferry service for which they had both been built. At the Cunard Steamship Company's Annual General Meeting held on 28th May 1959, the Chairman Colonel Denis Bates speculated on how the world would be travelling in the future. each day in the QUEEN ELIZABETH's first-class restaurant. From there she sailed to Simonstown (Cape Town) where German prisoners of war boarded, heading for internment in the United States. 1951onwards It was certainly the last time that the two 'Queens' ever stopped at sea in war time. By the beginning of March 1940, Queen Elizabeth was ready for her secret voyage. The SEAWISE UNIVERSITY (ex QUEEN ELIZABETH). Ferry boats fuss across the river, dodging between these ships, almost like children running across a busy road.". Three years later it was announced that the QUEEN ELIZABETH would return to the Clyde in December 1965 for extensive improvements by her builders, John Brown & Company. Other than for Southampton's Albion Band, the quayside was almost bereft of well-wishers. On 8th September 1951 the QUEEN ELIZABETH left Southampton on her 100th round voyage to New York since she entered passenger service in October 1946. Churchill, as First Lord of the Admiralty, expressed his fears for the safety of the QUEEN ELIZABETH and felt that she would fall victim to Nazi bombers in her exposed site at Clydebank. The liner's new owners were by now in financial difficulty and Cunard stepped in to moderate a worsening situation by more or less taking over the new venture. On the orders of the neutral American government (in accordance with the Geneva Convention), only maintenance or construction work of a non-beligerent nature could be carried out on the liners moored along the New York waterfront. Cunard's appropriated pilot, Captain Bowyer, was not available as he was 'fogbound' on another vessel. Within a few short minutes the plans, hopes and successes of three decades came to an end as syrens boomed out across the water, the whole poignant scene witnessed by just a few passengers braving the night wind. To find a ships official number go to theCrew List Index Project(CLIP) website, which has information about merchant ships from 1855 to 1913, or theMiramar Ship Indexwebsite (subscription required) which lists some categories of merchant and naval ships. [21] After her trials Queen Elizabeth finally entered passenger service, allowing Cunard White Star to launch the long-planned two-ship weekly service to New York. WebAll surviving agreements and crew lists with their logbooks are held by The National Archives, Ruskin Avenue, Kew, Richmond, Surrey TW9 4DU. Many do not survive at all whilst significant proportions of those that do survive are held at other archives, most notably: The National Archives holds the following proportions of surviving crew lists and agreements after 1861: Local archives took some of the records for the period 1863-1913 (see section 12). [31] Position of the wreck: .mw-parser-output .geo-default,.mw-parser-output .geo-dms,.mw-parser-output .geo-dec{display:inline}.mw-parser-output .geo-nondefault,.mw-parser-output .geo-multi-punct{display:none}.mw-parser-output .longitude,.mw-parser-output .latitude{white-space:nowrap}221943N 1140644E / 22.32861N 114.11222E / 22.32861; 114.11222. The Company had replaced a number of its smaller ships, but there were no large replacements for the express service at the planning stage. Sir James Bisset was in command of the QUEEN ELIZABETH for many of these 'shuttle' voyages. All the Cunard records from that period have apparently been lost. Whilst in Singapore many of the crew frequented a pub called the, After leaving Singapore the QUEEN ELIZABETH headed for Sydney. Before 1747 no systematic records of the crew of merchant ships were kept. To a post-war Britain she was to become what the 'Mary' had represented to the country after the Great Depression - a national symbol of recovery from adversity. A/CPO Lornie Peter Barnard. During almost two decades following the end of the Second World War, young men in Britain were 'called up' for two years of National Service in the armed forces. While being constructed in the mid-1930s by John Brown and Company at Clydebank, Scotland, the build was [6] This proved to be problematic, for the ship's engines and boilers were in poor condition after several years of neglect. Built at the famed John Brown Shipyard in Clydebank, Queen Elizabeth was the largest passenger ship ever constructed, a title she held from her launch until 1996 when finally eclipsed A large amount of tropical growth that was fouling the liner's bottom plates needed to be removed: it was estimated that the growth reduced her speed by two knots or more. WebHMS Queen Elizabeth during the Second World War 1939-1945. For a short time the Queen Elizabeth, now under the command of Commodore Geoffrey Trippleton Marr attempted a dual role in order to become more profitable; when not plying her usual transatlantic route, which she now alternated in her sailings with the French Line's SS France, the ship cruised between New York and Nassau. The minimum rate for each cruise would be $185 or 66. This limited the turn-round at both Southampton and New York to just 36 hours which by current standards sounds very leisurely indeed! They demanded 50 per man danger money-cum-bonus, but were given 30 plus 5 per month extra pay. An elaborate ruse suggested to any German observers that she would sail to Southampton to complete her fitting-out. Archive British Pathe film footage of the launch can be viewed by logging on to: < British Pathe The Queen launches the QUEEN ELIZABETH 1938 >, The QUEEN ELIZABETH enters the waters of the River Clyde, The crowds at John Brown's shipyard at the launch, The QUEEN ELIZABETH is towed round to the fitting-out basin at, John Brown's shipyard, following her successful launch. Sir Basil Smallpiece (Cunard's chairman since November 1965 when he succeeded Sir John Brocklebank) decided that the time had finally come for drastic, long-delayed surgery on the Cunard passenger fleet. Some 10,000 men could, perhaps, be carried in safety according to the lifeboat and liferaft capacity of the ship, but it was considered that the extra 5,000 men who were carried in summer and not provided for in the life-saving equipment were worth the risk, based on the Elizabeth's existing records of speed and reliability. After a call at Rio de Janeiro, the Elizabeth finally arrived inNew York to begin what became known as the 'G.I. the NORMANDIE, the QUEEN MARY and the QUEEN ELIZABETH. The Pacific was too dangerous for her with both German and Japanese submarines on the prowl. Captain Bisset said, after the war, that an explosion was heard, "and we increased to 31 knots without any trouble.". Both Queen Elizabeth and Churchill sent messages of congratulation to Captain Townley. The records held are for years ending with five (1955, 1965, and so on).https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/research-guides/research-guide-c12-merchant-navy-ship-registration-custom-house-records. L.Sea. She would carry 1,800 students plus 800 cruise passengers on world-wide voyages. The experiment lasted three voyages before the bandits were given a dishonourable discharge. John Brown Image The queen is greeted by Sir Percy Bates of Cunard John Brown Image The front cover of the official launching booklet for the Queen Elizabeth Crew lists and agreements for Indian crew (or lascars) of British registered ships who enlisted on the Indian sub-continent are called Asiatic agreements. and acceptance trials over the Arran Mile, in the Firth of Clyde. This would have been the OCEANIC, whose keel was laid at Harland & Wolff's yard in 1928. to embark 5,000 troops on a northbound convoy to Suez. Ships did not have an official number before 1855. Sir John went on to say that he believed 1962 would show an improvement over 1961, but it was impossible to say how much at that stage. Queen Mary was retired from service on 9 December 1967, and sold to the city of Long Beach, California. They became an establishment, a familiar sight to those who saw them arriving and departing, and a way of life to the crew who sailed them. Information on the holdings of The National Archives are decribed in The National Archives' Merchant Seamen: Agreements and Crew Lists after 1861. WebQueen Elizabeth docked at Southampton in 1967. Together with Queen Mary and in competition with the American liners SSUnited States and SSAmerica, Queen Elizabeth dominated the transatlantic passenger trade until their fortunes began to decline with the advent of the faster and more economical jet airliner in the late 1950s. The Maritime History Archive search their Crew List Index by ships official number. In May 1936 tenders were opened from John Brown, Cammell Laird, Vickers Armstrong and Swan Hunter. They begin to appear amongst the records from 1852 onwards; many have been destroyed; usually only those recording a birth or death have survived. Five days, nine hours and 3,127 nautical miles after leaving the Tail of the Bank, the QUEEN ELIZABETH passed the Ambrose Channel Light Vessel off New York and picked up her pilot. Many thanks to Ted Finch for his assistance in collecting this data. The passage time to Nassau would be 39 hours each way, giving passengers almost two full days there. In May 1962 the Cunard Line announced that, for the first time ever, the QUEEN ELIZABETH would be going cruising. The QUEEN ELIZABETH departing from the river of her birth, and her. But the prime reason for the day's visit was for the Queen to unveil a portrait of herself. There was some talk of permanently flooding the bilge and allowing the Queen Elizabeth to rest on the bed of the Intracoastal Waterway in Ft. Lauderdale harbour (Port Everglades) and remain open, but the ship was forced to close in August 1970, after losing money and being declared a fire hazard. During two years of near neglect, deterioration had rapidly set in, especially in the fragile boiler tubes. The first-class restaurant on the QUEEN ELIZABETH. August 2 - 7 First time a complete division was carried on any ship. On boarding, each G.I. But first the ship had to be moved from Port Everglades to Hong Kong. Sir Percy Bates said that he liked to think that the Queens had, by their troop carrying capacities, shortened the war by a whole year. The purpose of the visit was to enable Queen Elizabeth to present the ship with her personal standard, to be framed and hung in the first-class restaurant. The small vessel's skipper hoisted a flag signal: "What ship is that?" Although the 'Queens' could easily manage 27 or 28 knots, they were reduced to the convoy's common speed of around 20 knots. With potentially upward of 500 crew requiring to scramble up from their quarters below, the sheer climb would have presented quite a hazard, particularly in bad weather and at a time of emergency. By 1960 the jets had 70% of the transatlantic business. the dock from her, on the north side of Pier 88, is the NORMANDIE. We place some essential cookies on your device to make this website work. A Schedule D form was headed Accounts Of Voyages And Crew For Home Trade Ship. Captain Duncan Cameron, the Southampton pilot, was still on board. The QUEEN ELIZABETH at anchor off Nassau, Bahamas. It was controlled simply by the necessity to provide sufficient passenger accommodation and propulsion to operate a two-ship weekly express service across the North Atlantic. However the year 1957 proved to be the irreversible turning point when an equal number of people were transported by air as were carried by sea. They were huge sitting targets in a hostile ocean. The ship sat like a giant beacon in the middle of Clydebank, visible for miles around. The ships would have to run without repairs for eleven months of the year. Queen Elizabeth leaving New York during her last voyage, 1968. Top to bottom: the MAURETANIA, the NORMANDIE, the QUEEN MARY. WebHMS Queen Elizabeth is the largest and most powerful vessel ever constructed for the Royal Navy. Discovery is a catalogue of archival records across the UK and beyond, from which you can search 32 million records. When Cunard requested that the Americans send over an inspector to approve the improvement work as it progressed, the authorities declined. The UNITED STATES took the 'Blue Riband' on her maiden voyage. As soon as the decision to retire the 'Elizabeth' was made public, her cruises and Western Ocean crossings became popular with those who had travelled on and had loved the ship over the kength of her career. ", The promenade deck main square on the QUEEN ELIZABETH. Image of a ships muster roll 1770-1775 (catalogue reference: BT 98/3). The QUEEN ELIZABETH was back in service on the North Atlantic on 26th March 1966, but with 150 cabins still not completed, she carried Harland & Wolff workmen with her to finish the job. Half-yearly crew lists for ships on home voyages (Schedule D) The hull was cut into sections of up to 250 tons each and, in all, some 45,000 tons of metal were lifted from the wreck. When considering the comfort of those on board, Cunard had decided against the installation of stabilisers. Rodaway Thomas. He arrived at seven in the morning on Saturday 2nd March 1940 with sealed orders which were only to be opened when the QUEEN ELIZABETH was out at sea. Queen Elizabeth and her daughters Princess Elizabeth and Princess Margaret joined the QUEEN ELIZABETH for the trials on 7th October. The QUEEN ELIZABETH at the anchorage at the Tail of the Bank. The Americans were characteristically amazed and within five days had removed the Australian hammocks and bunks, and in their place had fitted fold-down 'Standee' beds, made of tubular steel and easy to clean canvas webbing. When Cunard requested that the Americans send over an inspector to approve the improvement work as it progressed, the authorities declined. Harland & Wolff found itself in a peculiar situation. Cunard White Star Tourist Class, January 1949. The King's Messenger was awaited as he would bring the order to sail. The American liner made 44 Atlantic crossings and carried 70,104 passengers in 1955. She had crossed the North Atlantic Ocean 896 times in peacetime, and had carried 2,300,000 passengers, steaming 3,472,675 nautical miles in the process, On 6th November 1968 Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother visited the ship for the very last time. Her funnels are 70 feet high from deck level. The climate of southern Florida was much harder on Queen Elizabeth than the climate of southern California was on Queen Mary. The QUEEN ELIZABETH alongside the Ocean Terminal at, Southampton as the QUEEN MARY passes her, outward. The QUEEN ELIZABETH alongside the Gare Maritime at Cherbourg, The Duke and Duchess of Windsor were regular. In 1961 Cunard liners were to make 207 sailings to and from New York. This should be seen in the context of the QUEEN MARY's record of 31.69 knots when she took the Blue Riband of the Atlantic in September 1938. The QUEEN ELIZABETH (centre) and the QUEEN MARY (left). During the year there were 24 fewer westbound sailings and 22 fewer eastbound sailings than in 1960. The QUEEN ELIZABETH arrived at Singapore three weeks after leaving New York for a seven-week conversion into a troopship with accommodation for 5,000 troops. She urgently needed to be drydocked to have the remains of her launch gear removed from her bottom plates which would then have to be cleaned and painted. Half her crew was paid off and went on leave, whilst around 400 remained with the ship for maintenance, fire watch and to sail the ship on the coastwise voyage to the Clyde. These lists do not include passengers who joined ships en route. Though it was started it was never finished, due to the economic blizzard in the late 1920s. A major problem to be settled concerned the insurance of the liner while she was being built, together with the future full sea risks when she was operational. Cunard faced formidable competiion in the shape of the brand new liner FRANCE and the UNITED STATES operating a weekly integrated transatlantic service. WebRMS Queen Elizabeth History Pages. This is, indeed, the very heart of a shipping city, where, standing in the windows of that building, one can see the ships of all nations passing by in procession at tide-time, almost as mundanely as the trams whose terminus is at the water's edge. A parakeet flew in through an open porthole at New York and quickly became the mascot of the ship's officers who bought him a fancy cage and named him Joey. (The QUEEN MARY had been ship number 534). in the Firth of Clyde, the U.K. terminal port for the G.I. This was a subsidiary of the giant Orient Overseas Line which would be the ship's actual owner and operator. At a boat drill on 27th February the assembled crew were told of Churchill's order that the ship was to leave British waters. He said that it had become a source of irritation to him and his colleagues on the board. With Queen Mary she provided weekly luxury liner service between Southampton in the United Kingdom and New York City in the United States, via Cherbourg in France. WebFirst time the Queen Mary carried American troops (8,398 troops, 905 crew). Not only that, but the company headquarters was transferred from Liverpool to Southampton. These agreements had to be filed within 24 hours of the ships return to a UK port. Additional competition in the form of the new UNITED STATES would also be a factor from mid 1952. The unreliability of statistics - or should it be said the ability to interpret them in several ways - is illustrated in the case of the UNITED STATES and the QUEEN ELIZABETH. Seaman Lornie Peter Barnard. Dimensions, 987' x 118' The only signs of White Star which remained were the buff funnels of the BRITANNIC and the GEORGIC. Agreements for Home Trade Ships (Schedule B)These agreements covered coastal and fishing ships. [15] Queen Elizabeth zigzagged across the Atlantic to elude German U-boats and took six days to reach New York at an average speed of 26 knots. To a post-war Britain she was to become what the, The QUEEN ELIZABETH left Southampton on 30th March 1946 and arrived and anchored off Greenock the following day. When a speed of 25 knots had been reached and maintained for one hour, the escorting warships were informed that the 'engine trials' had been satisfactory and that there was no objection to their standing down. On 1st January 1950 the Cunard Steamship Company took over its wholly-owned subsidiary, Cunard - White Star. Bdmn. The National Maritime Museum holds 10% of agreements and crew lists for 1951-1976. Chesney Henry. The whole affair turned into a spectacular fiasco as the 'Mary' was undercrewed and had to cross the equator twice without the benefit of air-conditioning. The GG Archives is the work and passion of two people, Paul Gjenvick, a professional archivist, and Evelyne Gjenvick, a curator. The wording of the Cunard Insurance Actspecified 'the construction of two vessels in Great Britain', which precluded the Belfast yard from tendering as Belfast, although in the UK, was not in Great Britain. The first stop was at Trinidad where she rendezvoused with a tanker five miles off Port of Spain. For $7.75 the QUEEN ELIZABETH was sold to a group of Philadelphia businessmen. While being constructed in the mid-1930s by John Brown and Company at Clydebank, Scotland, the build was Use this guide for advice on how to find British merchant shipping records known as crew lists and agreements, originally known as muster books, and log books. L.Sea. Each piece in this series covers a number of ships and therefore appears in our catalogue as a range of numbers. From 1835 until 1857, crew lists and agreements were organised by port of registry and then alphabetically by ship name (see sections 8.1 and 8.2 for search advice), and then from 1857 onwards, you will need to find the ships official number to locate these records (see section 3 for more information). In late 1968, Queen Elizabeth was sold to the Elizabeth Corporation, with 15% of the company controlled by a group of Philadelphia businessmen and 85% retained by Cunard. The QUEEN MARY had left Southampton on 30th August 1939 on a liner voyage to New York with 2,328 passengers and remained there after her safe arrival, lying alongside Cunard's Pier 90. Scrapping seemed to provide the obvious, almost humane, answer to dealing with the problem of the QUEEN ELIZABETH. The Americans wanted the work to be completed and then for the, The QUEEN MARY and the QUEEN ELIZABETH met for the last time when they were both at sea. Each fin had an outreach of 12 feet 6 inches and was 7 feet 3 inches wide. Her master, Captain Ford, had attempted to avert the incident by ordering 'half-astern' on the starboard engines, but it was too late. The submarine dived and the captain identified the ship as the QUEEN ELIZABETH. In the centre, on the south side of Pier 90, is the QUEEN MARY, and across. WebThe eight ships which were passed into the ownership of the new concern were - ALPS, ANDES, BRITISH QUEEN, DAMASCUS, LEBANON, KARNAK, TENERIFFE and TAURUS. With White Star now under Cunard's wing, Harland & Wolff at Belfast were also invited to tender, a position not previously open to them. This rake also gave the Elizabeth a longer overall length: 1,031 feet as against the 1,019 feet of the QUEEN MARY. At first it was proposed that work on the Elizabeth would gradually be brought to a standstill as men transferred to warship work. Mary carried American troops ( 8,398 troops, 905 crew ) BT 98/3 ) experiment three! 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