Click on link: #FerventFridays - Week 1 - Your Passion. And the Bible says that women are not to preach to or instruct men, or to hold authority over men in the gathered body of Believers, the church. I dont know half of your theological terminology, but I do know that I love Jesus and Im going to heaven, so Im just fine with that. After all, Scripture teaches that Scripture is sufficient. So instructing men is a red flag to watch for if youre looking for a doctrinally sound teacher. Heres just one example of Priscilla preaching to men: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fIzWbXvfps. i listen to Dr. Tony Evans and i love to hear him preach, he is a good pastor and knows the word of God, so i do not understand why all this negativity about his daughter, i agree with the bible about women being pastors, and she is not a pastor according to how much i know about her( i only know about her from war room). And, sometimes, basic is enough. If you need more information, Id suggest BereanResearch.org, FightingForTheFaith.com, CARM.org, GTY.org, and Apprising.org. And because of those issues, I deeply regret that I am not able to recommend her as I would like to. I dont want my readers to believe something just on my (or anyone elses) say so. Pastor Chris Rosebrough explains why Priscillas twisting of John 10 to mean that we can hear God speak to us is unbiblical. No, I have not confronted Priscilla Shirer about her sin (and thank you for realizing that what shes doing is, in fact, sin). My article, Jill in the Pulpit examines 1 Timothy 2:11-12 (the clearest and most concise passage addressing this topic) in context and explains it (in what I hope is a clear and understandable way- if not, please feel free to let me know if you have any questions). I couldnt find these terms in my Bible! No-one is beyond hope. Olga Souders As I mentioned in my comment, I was here with my wife, completely of my own volition, in no way did Michelle do anything unbiblical. Unfortunately, Word Press doesnt show me that kind of thing until after Ive published my own comment. Bible Verses about 'Beyond'. Likewise I will not listen to Beth or Priscilla despite the fact that they are both Southern Baptist {as am I} because they teach false doctrine. Yes, its a big deal and, yes, I will continue to teach and write about it. Which is why it grieves me to have to answer that question with: Her theology. Unfortunately, there are serious red flags about some of the things Priscilla does and teaches that Christian women who follow her, or are considering following her, need to be made aware of. Our young ministry assistant, a woman, is using Discerning Gods Voice for our womens Bible study. It doesnt. Feel free to e-mail me (MichelleLesley1@yahoo.com) if it would be easier for you. It does NOT say, and be baptist. Is there some connection between this article on Priscilla Shirer and Israel that Im missing? No, Im not violating Scripture by teaching men when they read or comment on my blog. Christians dont get to have our own personal opinions. The silence he describes in the paragraph titled Line 1 could easily be construed to mean mystical/contemplative (i.e. The law in this case, being Scripture. Then Judah said to Onan, "Go in to your brother's wife, and perform your duty as a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother." Romans 15:1 Verse Concepts Now we who are strong ought to bear the weaknesses of those without strength and not just please ourselves. Defining moments, we all have them. Mark 7:31-37 Verse 13. (HaHaHa~ I KNOW Im going to be asked about this one by the ladies in our study. With all that said, I do not say any of this out of ill intent, anger, or anything along those lines, I simply wanted to clarify, and say, that I agree with Michelles exegesis of (Matthew. Mark 8:25 Verse Concepts Why would the Bible give us both descriptive and prescriptive instruction to warn against false teaching if doing so is a sin (gossip)? I and my attendants will fast as you do. WHAT'S THAT SMELL?: People just spiritually delivered by God usually dont smell good. If he had, he would have been advocating one of four principles, which are inconsistent with the rest . 1 Peter 2:1 says: So put away all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander. When the disciples asked Jesus to teach them to pray, He taught them: Pray then like this: Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name. When I participated in Priscillas DVD studyHe Speaks to Meseveral years ago, I found her to be an engaging writer, a witty storyteller, and charismatic speaker. I am curious, have you confronted Priscilla Shirer of this sin. Yes, Im afraid thats exactly whats happening. Hummm. Yes it is the little people or the less known that are standing against these deceptions and I am so glad that you are and there are many more. Sometimes the Bible can be difficult because it steps on our toes, but I promise, I will always point you Scripture, not to stories, fluff, false doctrine, or your own opinions, feelings, and experiences. Jeremiah 24:7. Theres more than one link in the article providing video evidence of this. - People coming out of sinful lives dont usually smell good. Our faith is rock solid if we have placed it in Godthe unchanging, perfect, eternal, sovereign One. If you dont sync with their teaching, dont follow them. Based on Saikowoods earlier post, you are not even familiar with the fact that Dr. Tony Evans is her father. to me she lacks conviction of the word I dont hear it; she reminds me of Joel Osteen and thats not a compliment. Id recommend starting with Rock Your Role FAQs #11, then moving on to Jill in the Pulpit. You just dont have enough time or energy to respond to every Tom, Dick and Mary.). We would be unified around the truth of Scripture. TO IDENTIFY THREE DANGERS BELIEVERS ARE TO AVOID. You are teaching me and I didnt even realize it! Mark 10:46-53, Denomination: Priscilla is Tony Evans daughter. Was Jesus gossiping in Matthew 16:6, 11,12 when He said, Beware the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees? Its not about doing good works to get myself into heaven, like going to church every If you have Priscillas contact information and can get her to talk to me (Ive attempted to communicate with her several times and have been ignored), I will be delighted to discuss this issue and the entirety of this article with her. If youre not familiar with the false teachers cited below, click the Popular False Teachers and Unbiblical Trends tab in the blue menu bar at the top of this page. TEXT: Michelle Thank you for your work in the area of discernment. And the only way to do that is to not only study/read the Word of God in its *entirety* but believe and apply it. But Jesus said unto them, They need not Run as far away from both of them as possible. (These are not exhaustive lists, I just havent gotten to the next installmets yet :0) Do keep in mind that there are many fantastic male teachers out there, and its perfectly fine for women/womens groups to use materials written by men. Like The Gospel Coalition, CARM, Tim Challies, etc?) Priscilla Shirer on Hearing the Voice of God on Issues, Etc. Ive read her own account explaining this. How can you trust that anything else she teaches you about the Bible is accurate and true? There is no passage of Scripture that says its OK for a woman to preach to, teach, or hold authority over men in the gathered body of believers as long as she has permission from her pastor or husband. Next, as I hope you would agree, Scripture is our final authority as Christians. Joshua 24:1-33, Beyond Sunday is about being a person who is after Gods own heart a person who loves God first and foremost who places their love relationship number one in their life the person who does the One Thing the greatest thing first with God/Jesus love, Beyond Sunday pt. Well, man, if theres only going to be a handful of people experiencing what weve learned on the pewthen I want one of those to be me., The story of Joshua and Caleb being the only ones to enter the Promised Land has absolutely no connection whatsoever with how many Christians today will be able to achieve intimacy with God. However, from time to time, I get people who comment or send e-mails pretending to genuinely want help just so they can get their comments published and who then proceed to argue and twist Scripture in subsequent comments. Do you interpret scripture to mean women should not witness to all people; share the gospel message to all nations not just other women or children? read more, Scripture: Disclaimer: The specific links below are provided and endorsed as evidence pertaining to this article only. #1 You have noted that Priscilla preaches to and instructs men in the Scriptures but I cant find the link. Parables arent the same thing as eisegesis (or Jesus would have been handling Scripture improperly, Himself), and its easy to see this by reading through (in context) several of Jesus parables. To think one can just enter there work into the public domain without criticism, is simply ludicrous! There are still some good, solid blogs over there (such as Kevin DeYoungs and Erik Raymonds), and they frequently put out helpful, doctrinally solid articles, but Ive chosen to use other sources instead. It will be called the good shepherd calls. I am asking the following question to understand your doctrinal views. Choose What Is Right: A Study in Discernment ~ Lesson 1- Introduction, Going Beyond Scripture: Why It's Time to Say Good-Bye to Priscilla Shirer and Going Beyond Ministries, The Mailbag: Celebrity Christian Hot Takes (Driscoll, Graham, Groeschel, Lewis, Lucado, Piper, Vallotton), Leaving Lysa: Why You Shouldn't Be Following Lysa TerKeurst or Proverbs 31 Ministries, Doctrinally Sound Christian Men to Follow - 1, Bible Gateway- Fantastic concordance and other Bible tools, CARM- Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry, Christian Answers for the New Age (Marcia Montenegro). She seems somewhat self righteous. Rebekah gave the servant water but also volunteered to water the 10 camels as well. I CANT FIGURE THIS ONE OUT! Thanks so much for sharing this with me, Kelly! Free Sermons and Sermon Outlines for Preaching : How To Respond To Newly-Delivered People Who Still Are A Mess. Check it out and learn about modesty and biblical decision-making. I think you might find this brief video helpful as an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-_THJXignk. In our modern It sounds like you want to be discerning and weigh things carefully. Lastly, although you are not directly in front of Travis Arnett, Saikowoods, Taylor Dunn & Seth Dunn, all of which are men who have posted here They are Reading & commenting on your comments and blog, thus you are teaching men. - Femina Sola Gratia Is she a false teacher? I hope youll find my response helpful anyway :0). BEYOND ENCOURAGEMENT Either way, while it is fine to fellowship and join with people of other denominations who hold to biblical doctrine (I have plenty of friends, and listen to plenty of teachers, outside of my own denomination, but they all teach and conduct themselves in line with the Bibles teachings. Two of the three best known sources Ive listed, Justin Peters and Aimee Byrd, are Reformed. I really dont want to study scripture with/ from someone who is knowingly sinning by leading His lambs astray. It is Gods plan for every Christianto grow to spiritual maturity and intimacy with Him. Mark 7:31-37. What Ive given you here are not my personal views. My personal views dont matter, and neither do yours. http://lisaharper.net/calendarevents/. The purpose is that none of you will be arrogant, favoring one person over another. This article is more along the lines of a court case where youre on the jury and Im showing you the evidence of Priscilla Shirer breaking the law. Im surprised to hear thats her position. Being a person of great influence and wealth, he had demanded that he be given a place in the group because he wanted to "perform" before If youre in need of suggestions of doctrinally sound blogs for women, go to the top of this page and click on Recommended Bible Teachers. Ive got two lists of 10 up there, and another one coming in the near future. I'll start.I'll share with you 2 Scriptures that have given me soooo much comfort and encouragement these past few days and then I'll anxiously wait for you to share what Scripture(s) you have been meditating on lately, received a ton of comfort and encouragement from and/or used to encourage someone else. I dont follow TGC any more. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will remove your heart . Also, if you had read the paragraph at the very top of this article and clicked on please click here and read this article first, your initial question in this comment (about sin) would have been answered. and Serita Jakes (see below). They start, not with a biblical truth but with a story or life experience, and then they build doctrine and beliefs out of that experience. Silly me! Hi Lisa- I think the articles in my Rock Your Role series will help answer your questions and give you a biblical understanding of womens roles in the church. She begins most lessons with a story or personal experience, uses these stories to formulate her own spiritual principles, and then adds in a smattering of Bible verses (often out of context) to support her ideas. I've been reading a book by Francine Rivers lately about an old woman called Leota who loves the Lord and has an amazing impact upon the lives of other people in her life, yet is rejected and hated by her own daughter, Eleanor. Romans 4:18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be. Good News Translation For your sake, my friends, I have applied all this to Apollos and me, using the two of us as an example, so that you may learn what the saying means, "Observe the proper rules." Iam finding that more and moreChristians have to be told this. John says virtually the same thing, and adds that to partner with false teachers is to take part in their wicked works. (This is where the video above ends. There are two crucial reasons for this. If a woman is supposedly knowledgeable enough about the Bible to be in the position of teaching and authoring, yet doesnt understand or obey such a basic biblical truth, what does that say about the rest of her knowledge of the Bible? Remember, the Bible says our hearts are deceitful (Jeremiah 17:9), so we cant trust our feelings unless they line up with, and are based on, the truth of Gods word. Our desire is not only for all to understand His written Word but for all to experience His Power! The salvation of unreached people throughout history. It is called cross promotion. I think the articles in my Rock Your Role series will help you better understand Gods role for women in the church. I have no doubt that others have confronted her about these things. Did you mean youre unsure whether or not she preaches to men? Otherwise, it appears this is a form of gossip. When this is done, I will go to the king, even though it is against the law. Matthew 9:32-38. 2 Kings 5:1-15. It takes courage based in Jesus for you to do so, I am sure. #4b- This is a promotional clip not a scriptural teaching. No, this is a promotional clip in which Priscilla not only makes several incorrect biblical assertions, she uses those incorrect assertions as the foundation of this Bible study she has written. Matthew 14:15-16. I totally disagree with you on this. But we hope that as your faith increases, our area of influence among you will greatly increase as well, 16 so that we can preach the gospel in the regions beyond you. Let's find out as we begin this study in discernment, Choose What Is Right. It often times fails. Furthermore, if this is a disingenuous comment/questions, you are being deceitful and displaying ungodly character and you need to repent. If they ever do an article on her, I will add it to my list of resources here. Romans 16:17-18, They said to you, In the last time there will be scoffers, following their own ungodly passions. It is these who cause divisions, worldly people, devoid of the Spirit. In today's edition of The Mailbag: Is it OK for Christian Women to Wear Bikinis? We shouldnt believe just whatever we see on the internet. Introduction We are officially in the middle or a Pandemic called COVID19. Paul's Apostolic Authority 14 We are not overstepping our bounds, as if we had not come to you. And i have my wife to thank actually, because she asked me to help her find some pretty theologically sound ladies, and it was in a post Michelle did that she found what she was looking for. Jesus starts with a biblical truth and uses a story (parable) to illustrate or give an example of that biblical truth. Assembly Of God. Priscilla Shirer is a wife and mom of three boys hailing from the Dallas area. 1 Samuel 30: 6 And David was greatly distressed; for the people spake of stoning him, because the soul of all the people was grieved, every man for his sons and for his daughters: but David encouraged himself in the LORD his That is why there is so much confusion in the flock, they dont rebuke the error as Paul did, but are now hobnobbing with them.. There are two ways in which living in Christ helps us live beyond our fears: knowing that He is completely trustworthy, and doing as He calls us to do. Are they guiding and leading a flock ( a church )? Scripture: Philippians 3:12-16 John Huffman Introduction I don't know if you are like me, but I imagine you are. We cannot live without fear. 5:7 ). This title is taken directly from the text; verse 37 tells us that the people were astonished beyond measure. Genesis 24:15-20, Denomination: Go beyond by faith. THE CALL? Where does the Bible teach this? Let's not go beyond what the Lord says through His Word. 7,400,364 journeys have been made to this site. One of them went up to him and told him. You are an intelligent woman. :0), She also hangs out with Beth Moore. August 11, 2002 AM 2 Timothy 4:5 Verse Concepts INTRODUCTION He said he met with the teachers of the studies and told them to go over and compare everything biblically and under his guidance to finish out the study and after that thereally will be no more Priscilla Shirer in our church. How is this different?. What do you consider important/non-important and vital/non-vital, and on which Scriptures do you make these distinctions? 3. We treat God's written word with reverence, accepting it as complete and adequate, and refuse to alter it in any way (II Timothy 3:16,17). She also teaches false doctrine (things that either are at odds with Scripture or arent in Scripture at all) and partners with other false teachers (people who teach false doctrine). 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