I rather be over gun then under gun. +P Semi-Wadcutter HP Ammo [38G] - $20.95 Or if you are really recoil sensitive these would work pretty well, non-plus p and low velocity. Well there is some in one instance provided no less by the original fellow who created sells Bear Spray Now you find a lot of mumbo jumbo to suggest bear spray is no less effective that a firearms.. then the predictable firearms in parks concerns.. Firearms safety To sum up when you do read the common information .. A Sacramento Bee investigation revealed in 2017 that thanks to that language, Californians have killed far more mountain lions since Proposition 117 passed then they did before.. He saw a seasoned Ranger carry the same rigging and said that was good enough for Him. These were not accidental sow with cubs, surprised a bear in a dumpster, etc. For me, Id say whatever you have at the time is better than nothing. HP ammo may be great for two legged predators, not so much for those with fourand large teeth! I purchased the gun from the nephew of an Alaskan Guide who had to kill several large browns with this same revolver. coyotes Wolves are more of a threat. The way I see it there exists no substitute for accuracy, proper shot placement, and They respond pretty well to people calibers without the need to go full-on hand cannon. Under normal circumstances, the lion would have returned to eat the prey. I hope that you had a good camera and a long lens to shoot it. When I head afield, I nearly always carry one form of sidearm or another, and while the truly dangerous encounters are definitely a rarity, I feel better knowing I can protect my loved ones and coworkers should the event unfold. 2018 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice and link are included. I call those DGUs as easily as a person on person. Same holster also. An interesting side note is that after a bear has been skinned and hung up, if you come upon the scene unexpectedly you would think that you are looking at a dead man. First you start off by saying a Judge or Governor is not what you want for bear country, then end by saying you carry a Redhawk in .45 Colt for bear. Almost no one practices with bear spray and almost no one can get their can to bear (pun intended) and spray within 4-5 seconds. would have killed him by a horrible mauling! But Garrett makes a round called hammer head. I can say the 41 is probably my minimum for the big bears. Derek Wolfe told Tucker Carlson he plans to eat the mountain lion he hunted. In the question of "Is the .22 LR Long Rifle within the ideal range of suitable calibers for cougar or . The free enterprise system in Africa works for big game, and for the villagers. or wherever. Babb said the attack occurred while the boy and his family were taking a break from riding all-terrain vehicles. thanks again from a Liberal Gun Toting Okie! According to CPW, Colorado is home to between 3,000 and 7,000 mountain lions. I recently read the account of a man in Oregon who survived a black bear attack. (altho I make and sell them) I want straight line complete penetration best offered by a hard LBT. Not being a cougar hunter, didnt pay much attention to it. A 10mm Glock is not going to be too . The bear biologist was tracking the animals when I stepped out of the woods and she told me how close we were to the bear. But .380's tend to be small handguns, and with a mountain lion if it's within the accurate range of a small pocket gun you're likely already dead. I probably keep the fine folks at Magpul in business with my 50, 40 and 30 mag purchases. I for one have never been bear hunting, always wanted and dreamed of going some day. Lighter, cheaper, and much better statistics than any conceivable 38spl load. Id never seen tracks that huge. Agreed. so why risk it. Brutal to shoot, but effective. The +P shoots a bit higher than the standard 44mag rounds. In your expert opinion is my 44mag redhawk with LBT heat treated solids weighing 300 grains adequate? FL). Seriously funny ! After I put it down with my .357 magnum, we found both 9mm rounds stuck in the skull. That being said, I would carry both. You can love a single action revolver but you wont find an Alaskan guide or hunter carrying one, or a semi-auto pistol without a 45-70 or 338WinMag at the ready. I do not shoot rabid animals in the head for fear of spreading the rabies virus from the brain, I do not know if this is true or not but thats what Ive been told. I saw a beautiful Blond one in Glacier Natl Park a couple of years ago. I see a lot of Blackhawk advocates. When I go into the Cascades, I always take a .357 revolver. bobcats Just as with dangerous game rifles, using a cartridge that is too big to allow for proper shot placement isnt a wise idea; shot placement is everything. heat treated WFN LBT now for these situations. Im more concerned with the organized gang activity here in Denver than all of the wild animal encounters in the universe. Hopefully, this link will work. This account from the Camp Verde Bugle, also says there were two shots. Now that we have hogs in the area, I want to upgrade to either an AR pistol in .50beo, a revolver in 500SW / 454Casull. Hunting and slaughtering are hardly a comparison. There was also a guy who used the Air Force M6 .22 LR/.410 GA over/under rifle/shotgun. Do I want to use one as my sidearm? I can shoot 100rds of 480 in a day, that equals two loads of .44 mag or one shot of casull and none of the 500. I would also explore all the different kinds ammo available that would be the best for an attack by a bear. Killed a mountain Grizzly but did not get my polar bear. Excellent article! Just no big name in the periodicals. Something doesnt fit here. . (https://www.fws.gov/mountain-prairie/species/mammals/grizzly/bear%20spray.pdf) Here in Upstate New York we have a very healthy black bear population, and highway sightings are quickly becoming a regular occurrence, as are the classic raids on bird feeders and garbage cans alike. When I fleshed the bear skull I filled a 5 gallon bucket with muscle meat from the skull. First shot went wild as the bear clamped down on his forearm and shook him. Despite the firepower, these guys all tried to avoid brown bear encounters. Cue the whining about how much of a shame it is to kill such a majestic animal. You have to be a reloader or know a reloader to get this, but it is well worth it. During the same period, persons defending themselves with pepper spray escaped injury most of the time, and those that were injured experienced shorter duration attacks and less severe injuries. I am 80 years old remember my dad had a meat market . Although lighter than what one would think of as bear protection, the authors .38 Special is extremely compact, lightweight and portable. The 400gr cowboy loads are mild and I could shoot them all day. A large-bore firearm, with tons of practice in real-world scenarios, and to hell with insane local laws that prohibit mags > 15 rounds. The range of a Mountain Lion may cover 25 to 785 square miles. It will drive a 300-grain bullet to over 1,600 fps. Any wildlife that is killed will remain the property of the state and will be reported to the division within five days. This would include insanely lar. The lion had killed the livestock but had not eaten them, The Mercury News reported. What did you have I asked, he said he had a .454 Casull in a shoulder harness. I have concerns with shooting the higher pressure .45 LC rounds, like the Buffalo Bore 325 grain load. coastal on the Alaska peninsula quartering away with a .338 Win mag. Thousands of empty Ancient Churches that have been converted into libraries and or apartment buildings are testament to that. I was able to aim and take the shot; it tore me up having to kill that nuisance bear that should have been relocated. The yellow color was striking. into camp look for a meal in the ice chest. Between 3- and 3.5-inch-wide tracks. Mountain lions weigh up to 198lbs, reach 30 mph at top speed, and only bite with a force of about 400 PSI. Mountain lions killed 15 dogs in 30 days near a Colorado town. thank you kindly for sharing your extensive knowlege and guidance.I would be interested in your opinion of Underwood extreme penetrator cartridge 44 mag or 45 lc as to changing the attitude of a not well intentioned any bear . get of his ass and go out in the woods with his 38. She ran out of there at Mach 3, with her blue hair on fire. I believe that folks who do their own reloading can increase the powder and velocity of this caliber, but I am reluctant to try the beefed up bullets in a Scandium or polymer framed weapon. They were relocating a Grizzly to a remote wilderness area. They have great hunting senses that help them spot prey along with sharp claws and powerful bites. This attack from 2008 shows the utility of a handgun for defense against predators in the wild. Most of the revolvers mentioned in this article are double action. I used them for too many years to be so. in bullet weight and energy. Again, please keep in mind that we only have black bears to contend with here in New York. This is why I prefer my .460 Roland it has compensator for better follow on second shot. You combine the penetration of .45 Long Colt with the facial (and nose) disruption of a .410 shotgun shell. My handloads push a 300-grain hard-cast bullet to 1,614 fps. A 629 classic 44 Mag. The key is putting the projectile in the right spot. Youre just a hokey guy who tries to be funny by putting others down. wolves They invited me out and told me that if I go, be forewarned that there are grizzlies about. An old farm fence stopped the bear at 11 yards and gave me the chance to get that cap on. BTW chest rig is way to go with X frame revolvers. 9. You need to shoot a few of the +Ps every Spring to remember where they are hitting. They can be found throughout the state apart from the southeastern desert and the Central Valley. He has 158 grain, cast SWC and SJSP flat point, +P ammuntion that are showing 890 FPS muzzle velocity on the boxes. The capsaicin in the bear spray will act as an irritant and will likely make the animal retreat. Lets hope that we can all avoid the threat of mauling, but if youre unfortunate enough to have it happen to you, be prepared. I am also, by trade, a Professional Land Surveyor, so my work hours are often spent in the remote wilderness areas. the game warden. Ive ditch my .460 Rowland. I will take it to heart and now that Ive learned the 4 3 1 rule Ill not forget it, and not fail to abide by it while in bear country, and quite probably every time Im hunting. But the animals are wandering into populated areas more regularly in search of food. Its time for some lab work, and the Feds arent going to let us stake a few bears out in someones back forty to test loads out on. I got a buddy who is a duputy with Harris County (Tx) Sherrifs office. I can hit an outboard engine at 100 yards. I will keep my 4 Smith and Wesson (K-Frame) Model 66 stainless .357 Combat Owing to circumstances at their place, I wasnt able to go. I love packing iron, but in a 44 mag, 300 grain load minimum for bigger critters. Id wager that Ive walked within feet of bear and cougar many times without realizing that they were there. Phil, I cant locate that corner; theres a ******bear down there! Now, as surveyors, we carry machetes to cut the brush in between our survey stations, and we are rather proficient with them. He makes a grizzly look like a cub. When the smoke cleared the bear was on its back waving its legs. It is the gun I used in the American Hunter Challenge Video where I make five hits at seven yards in under three seconds. I think that the 480 Ruger is a real sparkling over looked gem. while you are on the road system you are in cell phone communications 90% of the time. I have a short barrel S&W 629 that Ken Kelly modified. My gun likes the Hornady XTPs best, and I feel confident making vital hits out to 40 yards or so with this combination. Not like that should be a problem anyways. The FORGOTTEN GUN (but one of the best Alaska Bear Guns) is the Ruger .480 7.5 OR 10. Wolfe played for the Broncos from 2012-19 and the Ravens in 2020. However, the realization that you might have to use one to defend against a couple-hundred pounds of teeth and fangs doesnt exactly make one feel like Zorro; in fact, I looked down at it and said to myself:This is gonna hurt. Stay safe in mountain lion country Do not hike, bike or jog alone. Suddenly everyone was yelling at Paul not to move and the somewhat lethargic lion placed his jaw on the boys head and put its paw on him. That said, here are my picks. in bear country. 45 & 9mm do not get past the fat layer to break bones and damage vital organs. I mostly use single action pistols in 44 Mag, 45 colt, 454 casull, and a Bowen 475 Linebaugh that is my favorite. I agree, whatever you have at the moment, is the best choice. 296) Alan and Alex are correct. If you carry anything less than a S&W 500 Magnum 4 inch for self protection in this state while in the outdoors you are playing with fire. I have several 44 mags a .41, .45 Colt and 8 different .357s in various types and the 329PD is lightweight and with the 225s is heavy medicine for bears. Having to cock it every time I shoot. They have been most noted in the mountains of California but had, at one time, been found across North and South America. However, should you have the misfortune of getting between a sow and her cubs, or perhaps meet a cantankerous old boar, the black bear certainly has the equipment to rearrange your anatomy, and even possibly render your birth certificate null and void. We were given dominance over the animals, and we all got here at the same time. Absolute .357 Mag in a revolver for me is a minimum. With a 5 inch un-ported barrel, 300 grain hard cast solids, cut an X on the point with a fine hack saw about 1/8 of an inch deep. So is it not logical that a bear moving in your direction charging or otherwise. You will only have only one chance to prove fluffy wont kill you. 7 tours of duty (Coast Guard) and 11 years of volunteer EMT3 doing Bush & Mountain rescue all over Alaska, 10 years as AK Hunter Safety instructor and professional brown bear photographer + successful hunter and competition shooter, and trapper. Buffalo bore makes a 380 grain hardcast gas checked round now too. Year later, shot a black bear same ammo, but out of a desert eagle way better results. I was very intrigued by their weapons selection. This was a glaring example of surprise; this area, while remote, rugged and wooded, wasnt known for its bear population, very few had ever been seen there, but that one bear had my employees undivided attention. A doe once got a hoof caught in the top of a cyclone fence, near our property. Merrill, Oregon (Klamath County). Hardly know its even there. With a double-action police type service revolver I can unload all six spent shell casings into the palm of my hand and thus Ammunition To Go : 50rds - 38 Special Federal LE 158gr. A mountain lion was killed in the Santa Monica Mountains, becoming the first killed under the state's depredation law, a National . That was my initial question as well. If a domestic animal (pet/livestock) is injured or killed by a mountain lion, the owner has the legal right in California to have the mountain lion killed. 10 mm. The .45 Colt has long been my favorite cartridge in the Blackhawk. In Alaska, we not only have to deal with the common two-legged variety of vermin found in every place in the world, but also the large, four-legged beasts that can either kill and trample you with their hooves, or rip you apart with their claws and teeth; its the latter which draw hunters to the Last Frontier with high-power, large caliber rifles. (I have killed or watched others kill several with an ax when I was guiding. Predator animals act by instinct when challenged and hunt for food not to rob you or for the pleasure of killing you. Great advice. Answer (1 of 12): There's a lot of variables in play with this question and a 9mm pistol round is NOT a good round to take down a large predator with. Why dont you go out in the woods and try out some of your hollowpoints . Of course the welfare of humans (the public) must always come last. A bear will cover 50 yards in less than 2 seconds in a charge. .357 magnum will probably work as long as you're not running into any bears .44 magnum is preferable. Practice with light loads and carry it with one of Pearces 22k psi heavy loads. You can also use a hunting rifle or pistol to fire at the lion if it makes a charge at you. Colorado Parks and Wildlife said the man, identified on Thursday as 31-year-old Travis Kauffman, is "recovering well" after the self-defense attack on Feb. 4. I dont care if my hand probably wont wrap around the grip. DRT. Light to carry, manageable recoil, do a quick reload of 125jhp and your good for CCW. Carry the biggest gun you can for bears or charging moose. Bears cannot see as well as they can hear and smell. Ive racoons hunted quite a bit and upon shooting healthy racoons they either crash dead or make as fleet of an escape as the wounds will allow. No browns in this neck of the woods so no need for the really big bore guns. Did they field dress and later skin it ? C. After a Loss Depredation Permit Process. If you are entering bear inhabited areas, be prepared for the worst situation by having a firearm with sufficient foot-pounds to stop a bear attack. Not only does it take time to shoot, but it's also not enough to stop a cougar from coming at you. I call BS. We now have on earth more humans than were ever born since the beginning of mans evolution and with the masses of excess pollution we have already destroyed the planet we are living on. As to the power of black bears, I shot a big boar with a 240 grain CVA slug at about 60 yards. My hunting partner puts his faith in the Colt .45, and it will get the job done. I would rather lug a 12 gauge or Marlin guide gun in 45/70 for bear protection. I still carry that early 41 mag in bear country but just recently bought an early M-58 and am going to carry it as it is easier to draw with no adj sights. Sure, semi-automatics have their place. Like I said before , I wish someone would make a 416 Rem Mag. Its much harder to retrieve spent brass fired from a semi-auto Can you show any proof that we are destroying anything? If one only goes out when and where a mild breeze at most is at their back on a sunny day.. Well you get my drift. It is likely this mountain lion killed the lambs as they are readily available. To purchase a sidearm for bear country on GunsAmerica, click here. Sounds like you have everything covered. I remember clearly, back in 2002, while surveying in the foothills of the Berkshires a young employee came running up from the point he was supposed to locate, toward the survey instrument I was running. Oct. 14, 2020 6:15 PM PT. Little meat damage and with a WC or Semi WC will certainly do the job. The Freedom Arms Model 83, in .454 Casull, in a serious piece of gear. With a 3-inch barrel and a six-shot cylinder combining for a weight of just 25 ounces, this gun was made to be both carried and shot. WLN LBT even at long ranges with factory twists. Mountain lions will usually stay within their own habitats and hunt for their own food sources. If used in a custom 5 shot 45 colt with bullets and a cyl. Mountain lions are a specially protected species in California. Mountain lions have a size advantage, a power advantage, and more weapons in their arsenal to kill a wolf. I had never shot a bear before , so I decided to put it down with a shot to the next. It can be very difficult to bring down a rabid animal. I have had experience with all of them and know he is right on target. All of these four-legged animals that have attacked humans are in my state: Some of the 480loads tested in wet newspaper penetrate further than 338 win mag, with a fraction of the recoil, which means quick and accurate initial and follow up shots. Hell I wish someone would make a wheel gun for the 416 rem mag. and the 45 colts are equal if used in modern stout pistols. having confidence in your weapon. Curious if anyone has evaluated any of the older Cold War Warsaw Pact pistols. A lion's natural life span is probably about 12 years in the wild and up to 25 years in captivity. I sure wanted to sit and talk to him about all the storys they brought back. Understanding that a grizz is top oh the list for a bad and aggressive attitude, a grizz cant kill you more then any other bear could. Planning to go, I figured that I didnt have the right gun for a possible bear encounter. You'd be much, much better off with bear spray. The cartridge will push a 180-grain bullet to a respectable 1,300 fps, and that little Kimber has a lot to offer. Thats a lot of lead and a lot of head ( aka, big meplat). There is an interesting compilation of mountain lion incidents and attacks titled: Cougar Attacks & Other Incidents -2000 to date. Local dog hunters said lion are easy to kill and they use a 22lr pistol. In the melay to draw his weapon he had hit the magazine release and his magazine fell out. Key Points: No dog, regardless of the breed, would be able to take on a full-grown mountain lion solo. within the last 30 years, this doesnt necessarily need to apply to civilians. Although the species is protected, landowners can request a special permit to catch or kill a mountain lion if it has killed livestock and caused damage. wild boars Mountain lions, also known as pumas or cougars, interact with hundreds of species and play a direct role in balancing various habitats across the state and other parts of the U.S. Certainly, they have before. Hard cast is king. As far as I am concerned the best handgun for a person is one they are familiar and competent with. Its got the velocity, but wonder if it would have the penetration? Couple Im friends with have a vacation home in NW Montana(we all live in So. Most of the time if all you are trying to do is keep the bears from attacking you, wear bells on your clothing as the old timers did. While mountain lion attacks are rare, it is because mountain lions are not common, and interactions between mountain lions and humans are uncommon. Schalow was 10 years old at the time. I like the S&W 460 as well. Note on BLACK BEARS they have become highly predatory in Alaska. Carry the biggest freaking Gun you can shoot very very well ! But I enjoy listening to people who think they know everything prove they dont. The California Department of Fish and Wildlife has granted a number of these in the last week, The Los Angeles Times reported. However, they also prove a nuisance to local livestock. Definitely not in the same category as a Mounain lion. Last I heard the Judge and Governor are chambered in .45 Colt and shoot the exact same rounds as your Redhawk does. 540 gr leaving the 7 barrel at 1200 FPS. This gun is horrible to carry full time when it must be out of site sometimes!! 7.6225 Red Army Standard 86gr. I started reloading and when the bear got to about 12 yards, I dropped my percussion cap in the leaves. I decently placed 5.56 will kill anything in north america. against a pack of feral dogs a .38 Special is highly effective and lethal. I finally settled on attempting to use Hodgden Universal powder for the first go, since it shows the potential to give good velocity with the lighter 170-grain bullets. Weve got them here in the Central Mountains of Utah. Keith by Buffalo Bore . If doing this with very heavy bullets a change in rifleing twist may be more suitable if longer ranges are expected. The second shot went CLICK. Bear spray works on mountain lions, and the concept behind its usage remains the same for many large carnivores. Alfredo Gonzalez, 60 . The author is right in the close terrain on of the Bitterroors, youre only going to get two shots off and the second one will be point blank. Im a pistol guy now, and except for my Ruger Super Red Hawk, I seldom shoot revolvers. . The 454 would probably be better and I did have a 500 S&W in 4 inch but as heavy as it was I figured it was easier to carry a 12 ga pump on a sling and let someone carry out the meat while I protected them. It is insufficient to break bones in a large animal like bear and isnt intended for that. My choice is the 500 S&W. By Mary Forgione. I read that several times as well. Very interesting. I asked what type of Rifle he carried. I dont recall if it ran on Discovery, National Geographic or The History Channel. 300 grains is on the low end for 50ae. Loaded with good ammunition, either of these Smith & Wesson .44 Magnums will make excellent bear medicine. Best of luck, fortunately it sounds like you really wont be relying on luck.. How many miles can a mountain lion travel? Being aware that sounds and smell plays a role in a bears survival by detecting prey, keep food or harvested deer meat or other game tightly contained as it would be analogous to swimming in blood filled water with man-eating sharks. This is perfect mountain lion habitat. the 45 colt will out perform even the 454 if the right cases are used in bullet weights up to 410gr. Thats why I would always plan to have with me.a friend who could not run as fast as me!!!!! Im sure that by now youve all heard about famous Alaskan bear guide Phil Shoemaker (grizzlyskinsofalaska.com) , who thwarted a grizzly attack with a Smith & Wesson 9mm automatic, loaded with Buffalo Bore hard cast ammunition. Curiosity got the better of them, and they managed to discharge the canisters in their hotel room that night. Bye the way thats 6 rounds of death spitting out of the end of that gun ! That wouldnt do it for me. The female mountain lion in a chilling faceoff with a solo trail runner in Utah wasn't trying to kill him. Personally, I'd feel the best with a .44 mag, .45LC, or 45-70 in a Marlin carbine. Both are excellent sidearms but leave something to be desired when confronting big game in the boonies. My first choice is a Springfield XD 5 inch in 460 Rowland. "It is unlawful to kill a mountain lion without a permit for the California Department of Fish and . Equipped with piano wire springs, the wisely designed transfer bar and adjustable sights, I am very confident with this pistol in hand. Carrying a .38 snubbie in bear country is roughly akin to wearing a sandwich board that reads FREE LUNCH! The animal became a little wobbly and went to a tree then moved toward Paul again and it was shot a second time. Sometimes I carry a .44 Magnum with 300-grain cast bullets, but never anything smaller for bear protection. Unless you are an expert hand-gunner with tons of real world experience.. carry a rifle and have the pistol as backup. The mountain lion, also called a cougar, is the largest wildcat in North America north of Mexico. First round 00 buckshot then slugs. where do you come up with this bullshit. From all I know and all Ive read, .357 may work for black bear, but a larger caliber is better. Plenty of good options in DA revolvers tried and true .44 mag, .454 casull, .460 S&W, etc. into the Grizzly point blank range killing it. If a close attack by a bear happens, I sure wouldnt want a single action revolver. The experience led me to think about bear, cougar, and moose encounters that can happen on my property. Their saliva or blood can kill you even after the animal itself is already dead. Bullets dont tend to divert in the wind at the necessary defensive distances. Companions showed up shooting to save the day. 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